These guy have been around since the mid 90's though i had never gotten around to them. they always seemed one of those pop rock sorta popular major label groups which usually proved much less interesting than other stuff. i was really surprised to find this album really enjoyable. its not great. it doesn't get you rockin' or singing along or anything. but its a damn solid rock album. there was more than enough energy and variation to push me into the positive on this.